Tuesday, July 22, 2008
we won the trust vote. and i'v been jumping around the house, clapping my hands. and then they played the vande mataram in parliament. and mom reprimanded me for not knowing the lyrics beyond "vande mataram ...". anyway they are fighting now i think with the amount of noise coming into my room. long live indian politics. yipppppeeeeeeeee!!!
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and most news channels are also playing "Singh is King"
ha ha ha. n they called him a puppet earlier. i was offended then. now i'm triumphant!
are u really? is the winning so important? i really wonder if we can see the bigger picture.
singh is king - cudnt they trivialize it any further
the winning is not about the govt. nor about manmohan in fact though i do believe in him. its not even about defeating the unreasonable Karats. for me its the nuclear deal. i dont know about you. but i'v been reading a lot about it. and if it had failed i would have regretted living and not being able to save it. its about my country. yeah it was shameful but im beyond that now. its about the recognition of india in the nuclear world. its not just USA. i dont care much for them. for me its using the USA to get an entry into that small group in the world that are independent. the countries who do as they please. without sanctions. thats what this was.
and talking about shame. are you really ashamed now? all of a sudden? when i'v lived all my life with the realisation that such things happen in my country at all levels almost everyday. just because it has now come to the surface? because you live in another country and this is an embarassment to you? i'm actually unaffected now. neither surprised. godhra was what shamed me. of being an indian, of my religion, of belonging here.
nuclear deal
from what i understand only undermines us cos it takes away our sovereignity...
firstly we are allowed to use nuclear enegry but only for civil purposes and that too under conditions of UN surveillance as and when they want... UN operates pretty much as a US proxy in such cases
so even if u care fr US or not the point is we are giving into their hegemony and our defence interests are at stake...
that is how i understand it
"because you live in another country and this is an embarassment to you"
was that suppose to get personal... well i am in another country and living fr nw here but neither do i belong here not do i care much being embarassed here. am sure brits are as callous as most of us. i was disgusted with the way the debate has turned out with little info and excessive propoganda...
as for india's freedom in the nuclear world.. wake up and smell the coffee!
wud have appreciated if we cud debate the issue rather than our ministers...at least the outcomes would have been more constructive and perhaps a better attempt could be made to udnerstand the "agreement" itself.
agree with you hands down.. seriously this is just nothing infront of the hieghts of absolute dastardlyness and bastardlyness we indians have reached... godhra, the emergency, our president, our bereaucracy the list is endless..
VK even i was wondering till now why it was so difficult for the UPA to sit and explain to the Left how their fear of being dominated and ruled by the USA was totally baseless. the deal doesn't stop us from testing again if we so want to(do we firstly? when we already have amassed so much?). it does not state anything banning tests in india. there will be a number of nuclear reactors in india that will come under the surveillance of the IAEA and in these reactors we cannot test for military purposes. and to these world will open supply of nuclear material. which was earlier banned to us. and this is very important to us because of the need to grow energy production in our country. we are running out of most other sources and the way oil is going... the iran-pak oil pipeline hasnt worked till now because of pakistan and china is winning over us in oil exploration deals in and around asia. nuclear material is as u know a brilliant source of energy. and this recognises us amidst the IAEA and NSG. the NSG are making concessions to their earlier clauses just for us. to accomodate india because they cannot now ignore us. the NSG ans IAEA are bodies where those countries who had tested nuclear weapons first weild power. after they finished testing as much as they wanted, they declared to the world that anyone else who now did so would be boycotted in ways. this is where we landed and iran if i am not wrong. now they are reformulating their conditions to make way for us. russia and france are waiting for us to get clearances from IAEA and NSG so they can trade with us in nuclear material and have deals similar to the one we are planning with the USA. where is our sovereignty in danger?
coming back to the question of sitting down and discussing the deal rationally, yday i atended a round table discussion on the question of organised retail in india. there were representatives from small traders' association, from farmers', hawkers', coolies',... they wouldnt listen to the argument. most of them hadnt read the report they had come to discuss. all they knew was that their personal profits had gone down and if the report did not show this then it was sure to have been biased. they said things like "dont get fdi into our country. the east india company came to trade and started ruling. do you want that again?" we are dealing with many unreasonable stubbron selfish and uneducated politicians here where the deal is concerned, so you can imagine what it would be like. if as u say the deal is not in our favour, why did so many senior and retired defence and national security people write to the parliament saying that this was the best deal india could wish for and to let it perish would be to waste the brilliant negotiations of our diplomats? search for that letter on the net.
i will try n get back with the facts. i would agree there is no point arguing in the dark...
but thanks for the information. appreciate it...
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